Sexual Harrassment

[IAG]

Or maybe those alpha traits of being a self-indulgent asshole just aren't conducive to lasting, monogamous relationships...

Correlation doesn't equal causation.

And the alpha male's inability to maintain a lasting, monogamous relationship should be cast in a positive light? Is that somehow better than the beta that can offer a substantive relationship with a woman?

Still, you going on so much, and with theory that sounds pretty simpleton makes me feel like you're hurt personally

Could one imply that these sentiments are construed to "play the victim" and that men are being victimized by feminism?

 

[IAG]

Typing on iPad too hard...wenta little smilie happy. I have more thoughts on this...I will give you my barstool psychology tomorrow if I regain some NRG.

Plommer--

 

[CaliGirlNY]

PLommer tends to paint with a broad brush. I don't know any women who expect things to be handed to them in the workplace without exering the same effort/work ethic as a man. I think Plommer spends a lot of time finding videos and articles about women that support his position instead of being objective. PLommer makes Donsld Trump look like Susan B. Anthony.

PLommer...got your message. Sorry, was not available last night. I'll try calling Monday or Tuesday if that works.

PS women like attention from unattractive guys too. THey just don't want attention from creepy guys....and remember physical attractiveness means far less to women than to men.

Women should absolutely work for success in the same way as aman. I never made mention to women being handed things, or for women to get off easier. I believe in EQUALITY. But men calling women pet names belittles women in the work place and only adds to the glass ceiling. Some women work arguably harder than men and can't make it as far because of sexism and chauvinism. And this is with out women having things "handed to them." I don't even know why you would write that unless that's how you got ahead. A lot of women don't get ahead by being given things, or sex, or whatever. Some of us actually work for it.

 

[IAG]

Women should absolutely work for success in the same way as aman. I never made mention to women being handed things, or for women to get off easier. I believe in EQUALITY. But men calling women pet names belittles women in the work place and only adds to the glass ceiling. Some women work arguably harder than men and can't make it as far because of sexism and chauvinism. And this is with out women having things "handed to them." I don't even know why you would write that unless that's how you got ahead. A lot of women don't get ahead by being given things, or sex, or whatever. Some of us actually work for it.

WTH are you talking about? You Sony know why I wrote what? I got ahead by hard workand dedication, and always have. I said I don't know ANY women who expect to not work for what they get. I don't understand your point here at all Cali. I thought we were arguing the same point, other than me being. Little less harsh on Casper for a first offense regarding pet names.

 

[HotFun]

Women should absolutely work for success in the same way as aman. I never made mention to women being handed things, or for women to get off easier. I believe in EQUALITY. But men calling women pet names belittles women in the work place and only adds to the glass ceiling. Some women work arguably harder than men and can't make it as far because of sexism and chauvinism. And this is with out women having things "handed to them." I don't even know why you would write that unless that's how you got ahead. A lot of women don't get ahead by being given things, or sex, or whatever. Some of us actually work for it.

THAT'S FUNNY. I'D BET MY BOTTOM DOLLAR THAT THE ONLY "WORK" YOU HAVE DONE TO "GET AHEAD" WAS STICKING A COCK DOWN YOUR THROAT.

 

[betplom]

makes me feel like you're hurt personally.

I'm not hurt, no, I understand what happened in my past and that angered me and caused resentment. I became ware of these things years ago but couldn't explain them. It wasn't until I found an online community of over 100k men that wrote about their relationship experiences and how they failed or succeeded depending on their behaviour with women that I noticed that my experiences were the same.


I was told that women are attracted to nice guys. No, women are attracted to attractive guys. Being nice to a woman will not make her panties wet. Never has, never will.

I realize I'm all over the map with my comments and have been talking about things that are not relevant in this thread.

Bottom line for me is this:

Women submit to men. Men that submit to women are weak and will not be respected. Being nice or putting a woman on a pedestal is submissive, women are subconsciously repelled by this. Women like strong men. Since figuring this out in my mid 30's I've had excellent results being myself and allowing myself to be masculine and not submissive. Women have responded positively to strong assertive plommer.

Sometimes "no" means maybe, or even yes.

Women are not direct, they communicate differently than men and are always reading between the lines, men need to learn to translate womens hints into meaning in order to understand.

Women have easier lives than men in western civilization. The more attractive they are the easier life is, they are hounded constantly by men that want to provide for them.


Don't get me wrong, there are exceptions, nothing is 100% all the time but the generalizations are accurate.

 

[FairWarning]

Couldn't you say the same for men - they are attracted to good-looking women more than nice women?

 

[housepicks]

My wife is hot.

 

[housepicks]

A lot of hot women are bitches.

 

[MrMonkey]

My wife is hot.
A lot of hot women are bitches.

I was right then thinking your wife might be a bitch! Bastard and bitch, husband and wife! Perfect together! :

 

[Teela]

I'm not hurt, no, I understand what happened in my past and that angered me and caused resentment. I became ware of these things years ago but couldn't explain them. It wasn't until I found an online community of over 100k men that wrote about their relationship experiences and how they failed or succeeded depending on their behaviour with women that I noticed that my experiences were the same.


I was told that women are attracted to nice guys. No, women are attracted to attractive guys. Being nice to a woman will not make her panties wet. Never has, never will.

I realize I'm all over the map with my comments and have been talking about things that are not relevant in this thread.

Bottom line for me is this:

Women submit to men. Men that submit to women are weak and will not be respected. Being nice or putting a woman on a pedestal is submissive, women are subconsciously repelled by this. Women like strong men. Since figuring this out in my mid 30's I've had excellent results being myself and allowing myself to be masculine and not submissive. Women have responded positively to strong assertive plommer.

Sometimes "no" means maybe, or even yes.

Women are not direct, they communicate differently than men and are always reading between the lines, men need to learn to translate womens hints into meaning in order to understand.

Women have easier lives than men in western civilization. The more attractive they are the easier life is, they are hounded constantly by men that want to provide for them.


Don't get me wrong, there are exceptions, nothing is 100% all the time but the generalizations are accurate.

Plommy, I agree with some of this, but not all. As you said, there are exceptions. Yes, if you are more attractive, you are treated differently. However, it does catch up when a person is completely incompetent (career-wise).

It's not just women that prefer attractive men. Men prefer attractive women.

When initially seeing a person, the first perception of that person is based on their physical attributes and not whether they remember to send flowers to mom on her birthday. What I find attractive in a man is something that IAG might not find attractive. However, the physical attributes take a backseat to their personality (unless you're vapid and only care about physical appearance).

I have been on plenty of dates where I've given a guy a chance that I might not find physically attractive initially (at first glance). I have also dated guys that I thought were attractive, but they were complete jerks. So, yes - initially physical attractiveness can win. However, if they are also not "nice," they're done.

The whole submission thing...not sure how you're defining submit. I wouldn't want someone to be submissive to me, but I also am not the type of person to submit either. Are there times I let my partner get his way because I just don't feel like arguing? Sure. However, I think we have a very unconventional relationship in which we're both very independent and do our own thing. We only come together for parenting purposes. Dysfunctional? Probably.

 

[Matty]

I was right then thinking your wife might be a bitch! Bastard and bitch, husband and wife! Perfect together! :

 

[eggs]

Plommy, I agree with some of this, but not all. As you said, there are exceptions. Yes, if you are more attractive, you are treated differently. However, it does catch up when a person is completely incompetent (career-wise).

It's not just women that prefer attractive men. Men prefer attractive women.

When initially seeing a person, the first perception of that person is based on their physical attributes and not whether they remember to send flowers to mom on her birthday. What I find attractive in a man is something that IAG might not find attractive. However, the physical attributes take a backseat to their personality (unless you're vapid and only care about physical appearance).

I have been on plenty of dates where I've given a guy a chance that I might not find physically attractive initially (at first glance). I have also dated guys that I thought were attractive, but they were complete jerks. So, yes - initially physical attractiveness can win. However, if they are also not "nice," they're done.

The whole submission thing...not sure how you're defining submit. I wouldn't want someone to be submissive to me, but I also am not the type of person to submit either. Are there times I let my partner get his way because I just don't feel like arguing? Sure. However, I think we have a very unconventional relationship in which we're both very independent and do our own thing. We only come together for parenting purposes. Dysfunctional? Probably.

So.basically you've dated every type of guy because you're a FUCKING WHORE

 

[housepicks]

Long as she washes my clothes and I get some sex I can deal with the rest.

 

[Teela]

So.basically you've dated every type of guy because you're a FUCKING WHORE

I like to keep my options open.

 

[eggs]

I like to keep my options open.

Yeah, a few other things too

 

[Blitty]

And Asians are horrible fucking drivers.

+1

This is the one and only 100% fact non-generalization I have confirmed in my 30+ years on planet.

 

[Boner_18]

LOL @ Plommer being a red-piller. Didn't see that coming.