Who is going to be the next President of the United States?

xpansive

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No dog in this fight but yesterday was pretty much this is where we see things beginning to unravel for Donald.

Was actually beginning to warm up to him as well but when you throw enough mud then inevitably it will begin to stick...
 

Badnina

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Why would you think yesterday was a big deal to him? Manaford's charges all stemmed from over 10 years ago. And in all honesty, he would never have been brought to trial except that he worked on the Trump campaign for 100 days. The judge was right when he told Mueller that they didn't care about his taxes. They just wanted to see if he would make up dirt about Trump. And I say make up because after being investigated for over 2 years, if there had been anything, it would have been leaked. And former head of the Federal Election Commission says Cohen is stupid and that is a nothingburger as well. Meanwhile, US Steel is investing 750 million back into a plant in the US. The #walkaway movement is growing. And all the Democrats have to offer is A) taking back the tax cuts B) hating Trump and anyone who supports him C) and now a Democratic senator, when asked to comment about a girl in Iowa who was killed by an illegal immigrant states that the real problem is that children are separated from their parents at the border when they enter illegally. Trust me. That statement resonated louder than Cohen.
 

xpansive

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I hope so Nina but it was never about manafort. The guy's been officially implicated by his own lawyer. Only thing that needs to be ruled on is whether or not campaign money was used...

The guy lacks judgement and has a undeniable history of employing stupid people. They say this cohen thing is a nothingburger but its the 1st real crack in Trump's arsenal and all investigators need is that one crack. Every gaping wound begins the tearing of a single cell just as every hole begins with a single crack.

From a politics viewpoint the guy has done more for the people (save for tax cuts) than any sitting president i can remember. It's a shame that on the balance of probabilities it will end this way for him. Either that or hope both houses of the midterms stay red.
 

reno cool

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Trump threatens everybody, but doesn't actually start war with anybody. Maybe it's his strategy for keeping the neocon war mongers off balance. Sounds crazy but the guy might be a strategical genius. :thinking: maybe he did learn something from Putin. I mean you can't take overwhelming powerful interests head on, no matter how well meaning you may be. Most people don't seem to understand this. They want to vote in a savior even though they claim to be against dictatorship.
 

reno cool

leave well enough alone
The only two I can stand is yang and Gabbard. But again not because I figure theyd be able to Institute any policy, but because I like their rhetoric, and they may shift the popular discourse in the right direction
 

xpansive

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The only two I can stand is yang and Gabbard. But again not because I figure theyd be able to Institute any policy, but because I like their rhetoric, and they may shift the popular discourse in the right direction
They're the only sane ones.
 

xpansive

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Trump threatens everybody, but doesn't actually start war with anybody. Maybe it's his strategy for keeping the neocon war mongers off balance. Sounds crazy but the guy might be a strategical genius. :thinking: maybe he did learn something from Putin. I mean you can't take overwhelming powerful interests head on, no matter how well meaning you may be. Most people don't seem to understand this. They want to vote in a savior even though they claim to be against dictatorship.
You don't get to become a billionaire (and sustain it more importantly) by being average...

Trump has Yoda levels of wisdom and understands international power plays through a lifetime of making global business deals.

Yanks be lucky as fawk to have him (even if all the media wants to do is destroy him through any means necessary)...
 

xpansive

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Tulsi Gabbard the only one who can bring the independents (and democrat leaning people who voted for trump last election aka the 98% that aren't on twitter) to vote for her.

If she somehow became the front runner then trump should be scared...
 

reno cool

leave well enough alone
:thinking: She's the only one that can beat Trump. It's hard to believe that after the Hillary debacle serious people would be pushing these boring, discredited "centrist" Democrats. And come to think of it, who's pushing them? The donors, the media, ie the same elites who are all linked.
The elections are a farce played on the public :hey:
 

xpansive

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I may not agree with alot of what Tulsi says but she's the only candidate that stands on morals and principles. Plus she's in the military, so I can already see her in a leadership role.

As for not making difference in Washington establishment, you're probably right. Doesn't mean we should say "fukk it", pack our bags and just give up.

I know the game isn't about finding truth but living within the psychological realm of the alternative is something I've no desire to go back to.
 

reno cool

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No, not about giving up. About wasting time and energy on elections as opposed to other means of organizing and expressing political will.
 

Tron

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It's hard to believe that after the Hillary debacle serious people would be pushing these boring, discredited "centrist" Democrats

It’s totally mind blowing isn’t it?

Joe Biden is the best they can come up with to beat Trump? Fucking seriously?
 

xpansive

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Bernie is beginning to grow on me.

I like the solution to pay for universal Healthcare. Tax half of one half a percent of every trade made.

Fukk wall st. Taxpayers bailed them out in 08, it's about time these corporate cukks did the same to improve the quality of life for alot of low wage people.

Besides, America the only 1st world country not to have it. Yeah he's a politician and at the end of the day not to be trusted but at least he pretends like his heart is in a good place...

I get why his adversaries push the socialism angle but Bernie isn't a socialist strictly speaking. He's still for free enterprise but that they should be made to pay their fair share as well...

Ain't nothing wrong with that...
 
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