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Robin Williams Commits Suicide

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Badnina
there is a huge issue with clinical depression. That's why in this case the toxicology report will be so revealing. There are several medications that increase suicidal tendencies and need to be closely watched by medical personnel who are trained to use them. I had a good friend who shot herself after her GP doc changed her depression medication without properly weaning her off the previous one she was taking.

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You're not kidding. I think Mudcat had a similar story.
 
Depression is PAIN. If RW had had cancer or some other chronically painful condition, more people would give him the out, saying that it was understandable and perhaps even justified. They would not be so quick to call him a coward or be concerned with the effect on the family.

Of course you could argue that a depressive condition might be cured. I just don't think anyone who has not suffered from clinical depression can adequately understand the PAIN that accompanies that condition. And I'm quite sure with his resources, RW had done all within his power to explore alternate solutions before choosing this path.
 
I'm gonna disagree a little bit here IAG. I believe in the moment, all he could see, feel and digest was his pain. I have no doubt it was real. But on the other hand, right now the family members he left behind are feeling a real pain as well. One that will haunt them for the rest of their lives. What did they miss? Was there something they could have done, should have done? Especially his wife who went to bed thinking he would follow her. That is the legacy he left them with.

See,,I basically agree but not completely
 
Matty
Cougar sometimes you're sharp, and sometimes you revert to dumb-as-a-bag-of-nails status.

There is a world between "feeling depressed" and suffering from clinical depression.

You, sir, do not suffer from clinical depression. Other people do.

Grandma Rain has had cyclical depressions all her life. Every 5-6 years she would feel it coming and she would start packing her bags. She'd then spend the following weeks at the psychiatric hospital, where people are professionally trained to deal with someone who is suddenly unwilling to get out of bed and/or feed herself, for no apparent reason.

Depression is not the same thing as ruminating about your shitty life.
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Listened to that last caller. 1st I thought he's way overgeneralizing. Then when he says they do it when everybody's home.. that made me think for a while... eh I dunno, not sure what the upshot of it all is anyway.

wanting to die or not knowing how to live, is there a pragmatic difference? :dunno:
 
Badnina
I'm gonna disagree a little bit here IAG. I believe in the moment, all he could see, feel and digest was his pain. I have no doubt it was real. But on the other hand, right now the family members he left behind are feeling a real pain as well. One that will haunt them for the rest of their lives. What did they miss? Was there something they could have done, should have done? Especially his wife who went to bed thinking he would follow her. That is the legacy he left them with.

See,,I basically agree but not completely
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He was 63 and having to take any job to pay the bills. His television show was recently cancelled by CBS. As I understand, he and his wife were sleeping in separate bedrooms so I don't think she expected him to follow. I am not sure what was going on there. He was an addict with a long history of issues.

Perhaps it is selfish to take your life and leave others in pain , but I also think it is selfish of others to "force" you to live with that kind of pain for their sake as well.
 
Archie
how long had he been married to this wife?
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3 years I think. The fact that she went to bed and then left the house the next day at 10:30 am the next day without checking on him or saying goodbye is a little weird to me. Maybe they were having issues. The thought of one more alimony payment might have been enough to put him over the edge. I guess the first two divorces were VERY costly for him.
 
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