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wal66
To be honest Pav's I look at it the same way but I am trying to familiarize myself with the various approaches. Math guys are successful for a reason. There are plenty of cappers that are successful and again, for a good reason. I like asking questions of both groups because there is something that can be gained from each. I would never be able to be a strictly numbers guy but learning about certain aspects could help. Hell at this point anything could help.
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Wally each capper has their own method of success. But it does not matter how you do it as long you have money management and know when to cash out. Math guys pay closer attention to lines because they probably can't cap the game as good as great cappers and great cappers pay less attention to lines because the line movement is not going to change the outcome of the game in their view.
 
yellowfist9
Pavy you like to burn money yes?
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I bet dozens of games every day in various sports from football to basketball to soccer and tennis and hockey. I cap each game for 1-2 minutes and then bet on it a certain amount of money. I have no time to shop around for lines. When you are hitting at more than 60% getting a -150 instead of a -140 is irrelevant.
 
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I bet dozens of games every day in various sports from football to basketball to soccer and tennis and hockey. I cap each game for 1-2 minutes and then bet on it a certain amount of money. I have no time to shop around for lines. When you are hitting at more than 60% getting a -150 instead of a -140 is irrelevant.
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that would in fact be the difference between breaking even and winning.
 
reno cool
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that would in fact be the difference between breaking even and winning.
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Since I only cash out I don't know what this means. I make the extra juice by betting additional days. Here is how I do it. I start with $500 for example. Once my balance hits $1500 I cash out $1000 by betting 5% on each bet regardless of line. If this takes me 3 weeks or 6 weeks this is irrelevant as this is not my primary means of income.
 
reno cool
just saying if you hit 60% at -150 you would be braking even.
at -140 you'd make almost 3%.
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Most of my bets are not individual sides but rather parlays or teasers in football. So if I get two -150 lines in a two team parlay that hits instead of two -140 it's more than break even.

I am pretty sure everyone follows their method of success. As long as you don't lose money and cash out it doesn't matter how you do it. No one wants to be the next Brock Landers. :rotfl:
 
Question #2:

I've never really paid attention but in looking at the line movement in the MNF game I noticed the Pinny line has stayed at Tennessee -3 but that has fluctuated from -3 (-125 as a high to -3 (-111) at it's low. What causes the different price for the same line? There is obviously no set correlation between price and line.

My book actually has Tennessee -3 (EV).

I'm not backing Tennessee just questioning the various prices.
 
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Not sure what you're asking Wally. A "line" is a combination of spread and price. Pinny micro-adjusts its line automatically as money comes in while most books wait longer before adjusting. You can move the spread and/or the price to achieve the same result.
 
As Matty said the price and line work together. Moving a line off the 3 is a pretty big move and the book leaves itself open for getting middled. So they can instead adjust the price forcing the bettor to pay more if they want a particular side.
 
wal66
Question #2:

I've never really paid attention but in looking at the line movement in the MNF game I noticed the Pinny line has stayed at Tennessee -3 but that has fluctuated from -3 (-125 as a high to -3 (-111) at it's low. What causes the different price for the same line? There is obviously no set correlation between price and line.

My book actually has Tennessee -3 (EV).

I'm not backing Tennessee just questioning the various prices.
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wally, Pinnacle has had Jags +3 favored the entire time.

tenn -3 is in the plus range.


3 is by far the most common number, so books don't move off of it easily. The move from Tenn -3 to -2.5 would be huge. Other numbers, books are more willing to move off of.
 
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