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MLB expansion ( Las Vegas, Dominican R. Mexico, Canada, Puerto R. Portland, SLC)

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Thought this was titled "MLS expansion", as New York City FC was announced today.

MLS needs to keep expanding in areas with high yuppie populations.

Last 5 have been good choices (Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, Montreal, New York).

Washington DC and Boston need to somehow find land downtown where they can attract the yuppies on a regular basis.
Yep. I've always wanted to see a true tier system in North American soccer (i.e. relegation and promotion). The only way it could ever happen would be if the MLS made a second division, which doesn't seem likely. Too bad.
 
I don't think so, no. I envision a scenario like the Vancouver NBA team which started planning it's move out of town approximately 13 minutes into its first game.

lol. I forgot all about the the Vancouver Grizzlies. Memphis just kept the name.
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The Yankees and Manchester City. Jesus. Thats alot of money. New York City FC is big for MLS, sort of like when Pele came to New York in the 1970s but nasl was just run so poorly. Mls has need this for awhile, stuff like the "The New York/New Jersey Metrostars" was crazy ( thats a pretty large region) The washington /Baltimore/ Pennsylvania all stars lol? The Red Bulls are based in Jersey. Yankee stadium might be the place for the temporary home until a stadium can be built but the stadium looks to be nearer to where the mets play.
I'm glad. Now I have a team to hate in MLS.
 
What about a second league in other american sports like aba or the old afc for football. Maybe more aspects of soccer will make its way into baseball like relegation. Bad teams would be forced into different leagues like xfl ( no more pussy ass "fair catches") or arena.lol. I love the concept of relegation in soccer, makes teams play until the end.
 
You dont think vancouver would support a mlb team? The whitecaps has some of the higher attendance numbers in mls, great numbers for hockey games, good numbers for bc lions attendance. That BC place is one of the most impressive stadiums in north America, the mariners used it for some exhibition games and got some great numbers. I think it had 40,000 for a seattle toronto exhibition game.

Don't trust the pictures - Vancouver is a depressing place. Best thing about it is the scenery, which means that people don't spend much time in the city itself.

Baseball in Canada is unnatural.

I quite like baseball, when it's played in the States.
 
All of those markets in the thread title would be horrible MLB markets. Just because a lot of people there play baseball doesn't mean that fans will shell out $50 to watch it. Baseball is a clear 2nd sport market in all of them.

One market that could work is San Antonio.
 
so? I don't see that taking away from the game. As big as organized sport has become I'm sure there are thousands of capable players. I vote for 80 teams. It would be fun

No there's really not, especially when paying big league prices to watch AAA-quality bases. As a Blackhawks fan, I want to see more Original 6 teams, not Nashville or Columbus.
 
yes. :up: Matty Matty Matty. thats how it was in ussr pal. But you cant tell a Steinbrenner he's gotta take his shitty team to AAA.

FW, thats boring pal. I like to see teams from different towns take on the big wigs. In hockey I want to see more different styles etc. Of course baseball there is no style, but still variety is good
 
FW, thats boring pal. I like to see teams from different towns take on the big wigs. In hockey I want to see more different styles etc. Of course baseball there is no style, but still variety is good

Some years ago in Brazil, the CBF the league body through a case in court lost the right to organize the season for the year. The court dispute was between the CBF and a team that was supposed to be relegated to the second division the upcoming year, they got the relegation spot in a really unfair fashion. The top clubs have an association to negotiate for media rights etc called the Club of 13. Seeing as there couldn't be an official season, this association organized their own tournament. As to not have any bullshit controversy they created a giant league of 116 teams, basically all the teams of the first, second and third division in one big giant tournament. All of Brazil unified in one. It was very fun, the little guys and the big guys, giant killers, huge upsets, lots of flashy play. After, most everybody agreed in was a great experiment. To the finals it reached a team from the suppose second division and one from the first who had the best player in the country at the time. Lots of little guys had great runs.

Lots of talent surfaced that year. It worked well down there, and in soccer, as not much is needed to get a rising star in the game. I don't think it could work in North America with all the refinement needed to reach the big leagues. The following year the Club of 13 let the CBF handle the season going back to the regular style with a 28 team first division. The subsequent years they would cut off 2 teams from the league until they ended with a 20 team league format like it's the world standard in soccer. Now a days they have something similar called the Brazil Cup, teams from all over but it's not quite the same with only head to head elimination format. It's one of the best tournament to bet (imo wally).
 
Some years ago in Brazil, the CBF the league body through a case in court lost the right to organize the season for the year. The court dispute was between the CBF and a team that was supposed to be relegated to the second division the upcoming year, they got the relegation spot in a really unfair fashion. The top clubs have an association to negotiate for media rights etc called the Club of 13. Seeing as there couldn't be an official season, this association organized their own tournament. As to not have any bullshit controversy they created a giant league of 116 teams, basically all the teams of the first, second and third division in one big giant tournament. All of Brazil unified in one. It was very fun, the little guys and the big guys, giant killers, huge upsets, lots of flashy play. After, most everybody agreed in was a great experiment. To the finals it reached a team from the suppose second division and one from the first who had the best player in the country at the time. Lots of little guys had great runs.

Lots of talent surfaced that year. It worked well down there, and in soccer, as not much is needed to get a rising star in the game. I don't think it could work in North America with all the refinement needed to reach the big leagues. The following year the Club of 13 let the CBF handle the season going back to the regular style with a 28 team first division. The subsequent years they would cut off 2 teams from the league until they ended with a 20 team league format like it's the world standard in soccer. Now a days they have something similar called the Brazil Cup, teams from all over but it's not quite the same with only head to head elimination format. It's one of the best tournament to bet (imo wally).

Soccer in Europe is just alot of big money teams dominating everything. I love how these domestic leagues produce so much talent, tough to keep the best players there when the lure of big money is in Europe but the youth organizations in Brazil and alot of these places something the US has to emulate to get better. What is Venezuela and DR doing in baseball to produce guys like Felix and Pujols and so much talent? The best hitter in the world right now.

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The sport is definitely more fun in South America than in Europe despite the money. But Brazil is going through a huge transformation, lots of money there now. Teams like Fluminense, Atletico Mineiro and Corinthians with huge player salaries. These teams would definitely fight for European spots in an Euro league. Sao Paulo FC and Boca Juniors have the best soccer schools in Latin America. Their academies have thousands of youths, with training facilities, housing, all very modern stuff. Talent factories.