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Moral failure to be sure. But I'm with paver that legally there shouldn't ever be anything wrong with McQuerries actions. In fact I am comforted by this fact.

Anyone who would criminalize this conduct (non-action) is acting emotionally without proper analysis for what this would mean for the rights of all citizens in this country. Sorry little boys. I hope I would have the courage to report this crime further (or even stop it in action) but I am comforted by the fact that if I don't I have zero (legal) culpability.
 
camilion15728
Pavy what if it was you, would you want someone to just leave there, or to help you?
What if it was you own child, wouldn't you want someone to do more?
Is that really what the world has come to is that people turn a blind eye to these sort of things, and this isn't the military, these are young boys, very different scenario.
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What he did is not turning a blind eye. If he turned a blind eye there wouldn't be a trial today. He told his boss (Joe Pa), Joe Pa told his Athletic Director and the Athletic Director didn't tell the police. End of the story.
 
Pavy
What he did is not turning a blind eye. If he turned a blind eye there wouldn't be a trial today. He told his boss (Joe Pa), Joe Pa told his Athletic Director and the Athletic Director didn't tell the police. End of the story.
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Lets face it,JoePa ran that athletic dept. Wouldn't you find it odd that your DC is bringing 10-YO boys into the locker room,even after he wasfinished coaching? What's the message sent? Sounds like business as usual.
 
Matty
It's shocking to see how much of his life revolved around having constant access to little boys.

Them Second Mile workers will shake their heads for the rest of their lives.

Those that aren't also pedos I mean.

Actually, the pedos too I suppose.

*smh*
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Pavy
It's not McQueary's fault. Now imagine you are an intern (which is what McQueary was at the time of incident..grad assistant)at the White House. You see Monica Lewinski (which lets just say was 15 at the time of incident) having oral sex with Bill Clinton. You leave the Oval office and tell your boss the Chief Of Staff. The Chief Of Staff tells Al Gore. Al Gore decides not to call the police. Now why is the intern's who witness the incident fault?
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Pavy
Absolutely I would be happy. I did 3 years in the military and this is what we did. If you are a corporal you report to the sergeant and if you are a captain you report to the major. A corporal never goes to the major directly. And I actually saw something I shouldn't have seen in the showers.

A football team is a closed community and is run like the military. Watch the movie "A Few Good Men".
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mcbaseball10
You are the one that has to live with what you saw. I saw A Few Good Men and have a very tough time with your analogy once again.
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Boner_18
Moral failure to be sure. But I'm with paver that legally there shouldn't ever be anything wrong with McQuerries actions. In fact I am comforted by this fact.

Anyone who would criminalize this conduct (non-action) is acting emotionally without proper analysis for what this would mean for the rights of all citizens in this country. Sorry little boys. I hope I would have the courage to report this crime further (or even stop it in action) but I am comforted by the fact that if I don't I have zero (legal) culpability.
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Snitches be bitches, yo.

I'm with you, Boner. I suppose that's why I didn't understand how JoePa got fired in the first place.
 
Mudcat
I break that shit up. There is no debate.

I don't know how you walk away. Coward seems like an apt word to me.
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What if someone else walks in on YOU trying to break up sex between a naked boy and an old man with your arms in between them (trying to pry them apart)?

It would really depend if I felt like getting wet or not at the time.
 
MonkeyF0cker
What if someone else walks in on YOU trying to break up sex between a naked boy and an old man with your arms in between them (trying to pry them apart)?

It would really depend if I felt like getting wet or not at the time.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at there but I wouldn't be thinking about it that much. I just break it up. I couldn't not. I really doubt you would have to do much more than shout Hey! I doubt Sandusky is going to try to continue, knowing there is an adult witness there. But whatever - I'm not thinking about it that much.

How do you walk away and let it continue? And he's telling himself what? . . . 'I can't make a decision on my own. I need to talk to a grown-up about what I have seen.'

So pathetic and gutless.
 
Boner_18
Moral failure to be sure. But I'm with paver that legally there shouldn't ever be anything wrong with McQuerries actions. In fact I am comforted by this fact.

Anyone who would criminalize this conduct (non-action) is acting emotionally without proper analysis for what this would mean for the rights of all citizens in this country. Sorry little boys. I hope I would have the courage to report this crime further (or even stop it in action) but I am comforted by the fact that if I don't I have zero (legal) culpability.
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I completely agree with the legal vs. moral debate. I don't think he should be punished by the court of law. His ostracism from the general public is just punishment in my opinion.
Pavy, your google comments of chain of command do not do anything for me.
I just made it to Ocean Isle Beach North Carolina. :megaman:
 
mcbaseball10
I completely agree with the legal vs. moral debate. I don't think he should be punished by the court of law. His ostracism from the general public is just punishment in my opinion.
Pavy, your google comments of chain of command do not do anything for me.
I just made it to Ocean Isle Beach North Carolina. :megaman:
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Sorry I couldn't help you buddy. Have a great time on the beach! I'm jealous.
 
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