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Who wants a lockout?

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Team (Net Op Income)	2012	2011	2010	2009	2008	L5Y
Toronto Maple Leafs	81.8	82.5	78.9	66.4	52.7	362.3
Montreal Canadiens	47.7	53.1	31.3	39.6	25.2	196.9
New York Rangers	41.4	41.4	27.7	30.7	25.4	166.6
Vancouver Canucks	23.5	17.6	20.3	19.2	12.8	93.4
Detroit Red Wings	16.3	15.3	27.4	13.4	14.4	86.8
Edmonton Oilers	17.3	8.2	9.4	11.8	9.9	56.6
Chicago Blackhawks	8.7	17.6	20.9	1.4	-3.6	45
Dallas Stars	-1.1	6.4	12.4	14.2	10.5	42.4
Philadelphia Flyers	3.2	13.3	3.1	-1.8	5.7	23.5
Colorado Avalanche	6.1	2.3	3.4	2.3	6.6	20.7
Pittsburgh Penguins	-0.2	-1.6	3.3	5.1	8.1	14.7
Boston Bruins	2.7	2.6	11.6	-3	-0.6	13.3
Los Angeles Kings	-2	0.7	10.6	1.2	2	12.5
Calgary Flames	1.1	4.6	-0.8	7.4	-0.7	11.6
Ottawa Senators	2.8	-3.8	-3.8	4.7	10.4	10.3
Anaheim Ducks	-8.4	-5.2	4.8	1	6.6	-1.2
Minnesota Wild	-5.9	-2.3	1.3	0.7	-1.7	-7.9
New Jersey Devils	-6.1	6.9	1.4	1.9	-15.3	-11.2
Tampa Bay Lightning	-8.5	-7.9	-2.2	1.2	0.6	-16.8
San Jose Sharks	-7.8	-6.2	-5	2.4	-5.1	-21.7
St Louis Blues	-2.7	-6.2	-2.7	-8.6	-5.5	-25.7
Washington Capitals	-7.5	-9.1	-4.9	-6.9	1	-27.4
Atlanta Thrashers	-5.2	-8	-1.8	-6.1	-6.5	-27.6
Nashville Predators	-7.5	-5.5	-5.7	-1.3	-9.4	-29.4
Buffalo Sabres	-5.6	-7.9	-5.2	-8.9	-4.9	-32.5
Carolina Hurricanes	-4.4	-7.3	-4.6	-11.5	-7.5	-35.3
New York Islanders	-8.1	-4.5	-5.6	-8.8	-11.6	-38.6
Columbus Blue Jackets	-13.7	-7.3	-9.9	-7.1	-5.6	-43.6
Florida Panthers	-7	-9.6	-13.6	-9.4	-7.1	-46.7
Phoenix Coyotes	-24.4	-20.1	-18.5	-9.7	-11.4	-84.1
 
Potato would cut 10 of these 13 teams...

- Phoenix Coyotes
- Florida Panthers
- Columbus Blue Jackets
- New York Islanders
- Carolina Hurricanes
- Buffalo Sabres
- Nashville Predators
- Winnipeg Jets
- Washington Capitals
- St. Louis Blues
- San Jose Sharks
- Tampa Bay Lightning
- Minnesota Wild

Potato would also shrink the season from 82 to 56, and playoffs from 16 to 10.

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You're crazy Mr. Potato Head

Right now, the only teams that need to be put out of its misery are:
- Phoenix Coyotes
- Florida Panthers
- Columbus Blue Jackets
- New York Islanders (unless they get a new arena, owner and legit GM)
 
These guys flew into Vegas the other day...

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- Phoenix Coyotes - yes, kill them off!

- Buffalo Sabres - what? the Sabres are the team southern Ontario Leafs fans go see when they can't afford to see a game in Toronto.

- Minnesota Wild - no, Minnesota should never have lost the Stars.

Basically Canadian hockey fans support the Sabres. If Buffalo were 2-3 hours away they wouldn't even exist in the NHL.

Minnesota is a HUGE hockey state. Have to keep them, but get rid of their uniforms
 
I don't think too many teams is a problem. There is plenty of talent out there. How about a world league? That would be sweet. Teams could play majority of their games on their continent, then take a 3 week trip across the ocean for "interleague" play. And at end of season a true World Series. :up:
 
I don't think too many teams is a problem. There is plenty of talent out there. How about a world league? That would be sweet. Teams could play majority of their games on their continent, then take a 3 week trip across the ocean for "interleague" play. And at end of season a true World Series. :up:

All the best players in the world already play in the league so it can truly be called a world championship.

Outside of the US and Canada, there are probably only a handful of countries where it would do well.

How popular do you think hockey is in Italy, Greece, or the UK? Not any more popular than in Phoenix would be my guess.

You're probably only looking at a few Eastern European countries and the Scandinavian countries. Then, you have the issue of wrestling the ownership away from the current owners or forcing them to move.
 
All the best players in the world already play in the league so it can truly be called a world championship.

Outside of the US and Canada, there are probably only a handful of countries where it would do well.

How popular do you think hockey is in Italy, Greece, or the UK? Not any more popular than in Phoenix would be my guess.

You're probably only looking at a few Eastern European countries and the Scandinavian countries. Then, you have the issue of wrestling the ownership away from the current owners or forcing them to move.

How many in the KHL could play in the NHL, 10%?
 
nah, many great teams/players in Europe.

yes there are 6 premier hockey nations if you count Czech and Slovakia as 1 only and another 20 second tier teams.

But even if it's just between NA and Russia it would be great already. Perhaps they can start with limited interaction but there needs to be some.
From my standpoint there is just no interest in who wins between Anaheim and New York. Alot more fun if these teams are fighting for the right to represent NA in a world series against top European team. :up: