Who is going to be the next President of the United States?

reno cool

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I think it's possible he could lose fairly. I also think it's not somehow above the moral code of all the Trump haters to cheat.
I have no problem with evidence being presented. Why shouldn't Trump fight for his supporters? Is he undermining the sacred cow of American political theater?
 

plommer

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So Trump lovers have the moral code the Trump haters are missing?

Trump supporters incapable of cheating? Why only one side? Obviously because the Dems won that they cheated.

Lots of people loved tRump, but even more despised him. Its really that simple this time around. I mean during his entire term the people that openly advertised they hated him were reminding people to vote. The haters seemed to be far more vocal and had the most screen time.

I take great pleasure in the fact he was voted out. He was insufferable. I hope he gets charged with crimes in NY, only because it will be fun to watch. The entertainment value of a trump trial would be HUGH! And he is an entertainer first and foremost.
 

plommer

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reno cool

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So Trump lovers have the moral code the Trump haters are missing?

Trump supporters incapable of cheating? Why only one side? Obviously because the Dems won that they cheated.

Lots of people loved tRump, but even more despised him. Its really that simple this time around. I mean during his entire term the people that openly advertised they hated him were reminding people to vote. The haters seemed to be far more vocal and had the most screen time.

I take great pleasure in the fact he was voted out. He was insufferable. I hope he gets charged with crimes in NY, only because it will be fun to watch. The entertainment value of a trump trial would be HUGH! And he is an entertainer first and foremost.
I didn't say that. They should both present their sides. Especially with so many mail in ballots, there's likely issues that need to be discussed.

Yeah, media straight up owned by Trump haters. No attempt to hide bias.
 

Tron

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I wonder if all the mail in ballots had anything to do with the pandemic

:dunno:
 

plommer

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Comrade Coolie, no you didn't say that but I believed it was implied.

Agree 100% with your 2nd statement. This helps explain the hugh turnout and votes for the Democrats.

Although hardcore Trumpists refuse to believe their guy could lose unless the fix was in. They obviously couldn't see what millions of others couldn't ignore.
 

plommer

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I wonder if all the mail in ballots had anything to do with the pandemic

:dunno:
Referring OBVIOUSLY to the 10's of millions of fake ballots mailed in for Biden by clever commie democrats!

Stop the count! Stop the Steel! err, i mean STEAL!
 

reno cool

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:clueless: it's not surprising that there are mail in ballots.


Am I so hard to understand? :obviously:
 

Vegas Dave

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Here I will disagree pal.

You’ll see Ted Cruz or Ricky Rubio before Trump. That I can pretty much guarantee
Guarantee based on what?

He smoked these two in the primaries last time. His power/influence has only gotten stronger. His followers strongly believe this is being stolen from him and will look to "right this wrong" in 2024. GOP won't take a hard stand against him because they are afraid of committing political suicide. So when he runs again, after 4 years of pointing out all the mistakes Biden has made (and making up his own) while crying foul on how he got screwed last time, who's going to stop his tens of millions of supporters from voting for him again?
 

Casperwaits

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Guarantee based on what?

He smoked these two in the primaries last time. His power/influence has only gotten stronger. His followers strongly believe this is being stolen from him and will look to "right this wrong" in 2024. GOP won't take a hard stand against him because they are afraid of committing political suicide. So when he runs again, after 4 years of pointing out all the mistakes Biden has made (and making up his own) while crying foul on how he got screwed last time, who's going to stop his tens of millions of supporters from voting for him again?
What will stop them is the realization that for their party to actually win, they will have to back whomever the Republican pundits push.

VD, in 4 years their will be another Republican in office. The Democrats are so splintered right now. The ProgressIves are going ton make a mess of things these next 4 years, and you’ll see moderate Democrats vote Republican next year.
 

Vegas Dave

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What will stop them is the realization that for their party to actually win, they will have to back whomever the Republican pundits push.

VD, in 4 years their will be another Republican in office. The Democrats are so splintered right now. The ProgressIves are going ton make a mess of things these next 4 years, and you’ll see moderate Democrats vote Republican next year.
Were you not paying attention in 2016? You think the GOP wanted Trump? And you think "they" (as in Trump supporters) will happily back someone else instead of this guy they have a cultish following for?

It isn't like I'm making shit up here. Trump is the betting favorite to be the Republican nominee. And that's WITH all the uncertainty about his legal status, age, etc... he'll be a rock solid lock to be the nominee again if he's healthy and runs. GOP has been too pussy to stand up to Trump in any way shape or form over the last few years and those that have (like Jeff Flake) have been buried. Your theory that they'll randomly stand up to him in 2024 OR be able to control his rabid fanbase and channel them into another candidate sounds more like wishful thinking than anything based in reality.

While we're on the topic of wishful thinking, I'd snappppp vote for John Kasich. Would have in 2016 too. I agree white house will be ripe for the taking by Republicans in 2024, but don't think GOP can stop the Trump train.
 

Boner_18

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I see pence and Nikki Haley as the top Republican odds to win the Presidency (i realize different than the nom.). I show odds for your and my 45th president to return as our 47th at +1500, same as Michelle Obama (lol).

Yang was always intriguing to me and he's favored over The Don. I love finance guys and gals.