Who is going to be the next President of the United States?

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So, I am not the loser.

Fair enough, but neither is Trump! We'll see if the crown can be taken from him 11/3/20!

Vags, what country do you reside in? :dunno:
 
I was not referring to Trumptards but those who had bet on him. You just butted in for no reason. I am not jerking off to a 75 year old man. So, I am not the loser. Now, shoo.
:thinking: I was wondering who's more lame. "Trumptards" or the Russiagaters? I'm gonna go with the latter... by a large margin
 
:rolling: that's the nuttiest article ever. Apparently the author questions why the working poor would support Trump, in that he shouldn't be manly enough for them. And the examples given are hilarious nonsense.
The fact that he gives the media, the pc crowd, the perceived establishment, major slaps, at every opportunity, with seemingly no fear about how he will be judged, puts him way ahead of any candidate in recent times, in terms of masculinity
 
All of you on Trump train, can you list the states he is likely to win? Don't refer to sportsbooks odds.


I absolutely do not want Trump to win. But I strongly believe he will. If you don't mind me asking.......you don't live in the US do you?
 
I absolutely do not want Trump to win. But I strongly believe he will. If you don't mind me asking.......you don't live in the US do you?
No, I don't.
The only reason I asked was that Ds are big favourites to win Michigan, Pennsylvania and small favourites to win Wisconsin and Arizona. So, there has to be some value on betting on Trump winning these states if you bet on him to win overall. I assumed someone had done basic tallying for the states. That's why I asked not to check the odds; so it does not influence your thinking.
What do you think are his chances to win the popular vote?
 
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When every time someone mentions your favorite politician you run to defend him, when defending this politician becomes an identity, when defending this politician becomes an event that you do, that's a deeply indoctrinated person

Currently in the US you can spot this type of people easily on either side
 
No, I don't.
The only reason I asked was that Ds are big favourites to win Michigan, Pennsylvania and small favourites to win Wisconsin and Arizona. So, there has to be some value on betting on Trump winning these states if you bet on him to win overall. I assumed someone had done basic tallying for the states. That's why I asked not to check the odds; so it does not influence your thinking.
What do you think are his chances to win the popular vote?

I’ll try and answer the best I can.

There are many vocal Trump supporters in America. But then there are many people who support Trump but are not vocal about it. They realize Trump is a petty, vulgar man-child but he checks enough boxes for them (whether it be financially etc). Hey, it’s America you can vote for whoever you want to.

That’s what the Democrats don’t have. That lack that silent support. To make matters worse for the Dems, they have a weak candidate.
 
That’s what the Democrats don’t have. That lack that silent support. To make matters worse for the Dems, they have a weak candidate.

They may have a case of silent withdrawal. Otherwise, Ds to win the popular vote(-200) may have been the best bet.
 
When every time someone mentions your favorite politician you run to defend him, when defending this politician becomes an identity, when defending this politician becomes an event that you do, that's a deeply indoctrinated person

Currently in the US you can spot this type of people easily on either side
My impression is that most people's support of whatever politician,(at least in this case) is primarily a result of their disgust with the other side.
Apathy does not make one less indoctrinated. Unfortunately, hopes of achieving anything positive through the electoral process is almost none.
 
What are the odds now? They say Biden has an 11 point lead. Looks like they keep throwing shit at Trump, one crisis after another.
Neo liberal last stand. Curios to see how it all goes down
 
What are the odds now? Curios to see how it all goes down

I havent look up the odds but that's a lot of 18-22 running around, if they were indifferent before now things might tilt
 
Trump basically went from -123 to +113 in about 10 days
 
I see a lot of these guys coming out saying Trump isn't providing "leadership", whatever that means. But I see no substance, or some alternate strategy from anybody.
Really a sad state of personality contest, void of policy debate. They're not even trying to promise the people anything anymore.
113 doesnt sound too bad, if he's losing by 11%points. Tells me, probably expecting a big gain for Trump if things settle down.
 
113 doesnt sound too bad, if he's losing by 11%points. Tells me, probably expecting a big gain for Trump if things settle down.

IF being the key word there RC! After the debates are done, I have no faith in the intelligence of the American people as a whole if Biden wins! What you say (even if not true) matters more than what you do! #USA2020
 
Hard for me to believe that Biden is leading right now.

Is it too late for Bernie to run as an independent?
 
Yeah Mr m, it's hard to tell what's really going on, the media really makes one feel that everyone is an idiot. But that's probably intentionally misleading.

Bernie, wow what a disappointment. This is the perfect time for him to be out there preaching system reform. Crickets. Just goes to further demonstrate, none of these assholes candidates realistically want anything positive for people