Dual lines - opinions?

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pally

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How "scammy" is dealing dual lines?

The justification by a book is off-lines are a transfer of wealth from squares to sharps, dual lines makes it a transfer from squares to the book.

A place like BetJam used to just kick sharps out, a place dealing dual lines essentially does the same thing, just keeps it in house. Maybe it counts as in a more sneaky way.

Just wondering what your thoughts are, how "scammy" is dealing dual (or triple or quadruple) lines?
 

MonkeyF0cker

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Hey, pally.

Why don't they just deal 40 cent lines to everyone instead and be honest about it? If they didn't feel it was scammy themselves, they could openly admit what they do.

That's my take.
 

rito

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Hi pally.

I dont have a problem with it. the book offers the lines, the player chooses whether to bet or not.
 

pally

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Hey, pally.

Why don't they just deal 40 cent lines to everyone instead and be honest about it? If they didn't feel it was scammy themselves, they could openly admit what they do.

That's my take.

right, I mean they could just be a straight rec book and outright boot sharps

I guess it's more just that they want to only offer line sets that they think they will make money on, so they keep "sharps" around because they think they can still make money off of sharps if they offer sharp line sets?

I'm just trying to figure out where dual lines lies on the scammy spectrum.

Like is it more scammy than just being a rec book that offers t he same line to everyone and boots winners? Yes

Is it less scammy than, like, that book that used to offer NFL halftime lines of -7/+7, but if you tried to bet the -7 it would say the line had moved and you could only bet -7.5? Yes, right? It's less scammy than that, right?
 

pally

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Hi pally.

I dont have a problem with it. the book offers the lines, the player chooses whether to bet or not.

ok

I had no idea they were dealing dual lines
 

rito

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ok

I had no idea they were dealing dual lines

I have not been playing there, but a few months ago someone i know had different(increased vig) soccer lines than my account. thats all ive seen personaly.
 

rito

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Its way less scummy than offering lines that can only be bet on one. side, which is something 5dimes does daily.
 

pally

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Its way less scummy than offering lines that can only be bet on one. side, which is something 5dimes does daily.

really?? what lines does 5dimes do this with?

I thought 5dimes was strictly in the rec book mold, no funny business but booted if you win
 

MonkeyF0cker

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Is it less scammy than, like, that book that used to offer NFL halftime lines of -7/+7, but if you tried to bet the -7 it would say the line had moved and you could only bet -7.5? Yes, right? It's less scammy than that, right?

I don't know. I think it's nearly the same if they actually allow you to bet the -7.5. It's may be moderately worse since you think you can bet the -7. It's increased vig either way. Just different means.

Overall, I'd agree with your spectrum analysis of "scammy" sportsbook moves though.
 

Mudcat

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I never had much of an issue with dual lines. Unless they are increasing the juice - (which would be bad but I never had that happen at a dual line book) - if they are making the line worse for me on one side, it must be better on the other.

Sure, if a book has really out of whack lines, say, on the dog side, I would love to have it forever. I would like all books to bend over backwards to make it as easy as possible for me to make money forever.

But I don't expect it.
 

MonkeyF0cker

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I see it as a guy who comes into a store, the store owner knows that he likes Reeses Peanut Butter Cups. He charges the customer $1.50 for a pack of them, but only $1.25 for M&M's. Another guy walks into a store and normally buys M&M's. He gets charged $1.50, but the Peanut Butter Cups are only $1.25.

You can say that's fine - if there's competition. He can go elsewhere. But if his options to shop elsewhere are extremely limited, then it becomes a problem.
 

MonkeyF0cker

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And when all of the stores start copying that type of profiling, then everyone gets fucked.

A black market is created and the stores lose ALL of their business for being greedy assholes.
 

Potato

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We no longer bet the sports that bovada offers dual lines on.
 

plommer

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We no longer bet the sports that bovada offers dual lines on.

Who the fuck are you kidding?

You bet any and every fukkin sport on the board, pal.

Potato common.
 

rito

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Bovada dual lines are mostly irrelevant anyway. You get taken off the square line set if you bet the dog once. I don't know how it' s possible that there are even people on it long term.
 

reno cool

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That kind of move can bury them worse. I loved it when Bowmans was giving me a different line than was available to others. :dunno:
 

rito

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You could sign up at BetUS under the morrison system affiliate link. They would deal 3pts worse on nba games than the market when he was on one side. Obv they werent expecting people to bet the other side.