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Mudcat
Given the circumstances - my length of sobriety and the service work I have done for so long - she does not have a problem with me being in recovery. She sees it as a strength and admires me for it.
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I vote for revealing what you do for a living when she asks you. :dunno:

If she hasn't asked she'll ask soon I would think.

When she finds out you started the Random Thoughts thread she won't care about anything else.
 
Daft
I vote for revealing what you do for a living when she asks you. :dunno:

If she hasn't asked she'll ask soon I would think.

When she finds out you started the Random Thoughts thread she won't care about anything else.
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Oh yeah, I was just kidding around about withholding info. I find it idiotic when people go into online dating and lie or hide important stuff. At the risk of sounding like an after-school special, if I am going to get close to someone, they are going to have to accept me for who I am.

She already knows I had a business for almost 10 years that went in the tank, and that I have recently returned to "working for the man." She knew that before she said she was getting a good feeling about me.

Maybe she is one of these maniacs who appreciates honesty more than superficial stuff? :dunno:
 
Good question. That is actually a fairly hotly debated topic within the recovery community. There are many intelligent philosophical and semantical arguments on both sides.

At AA, most people say recovering. This, even though right in the introduction of the Big Book, Alcoholics Anonymous, there is a passage that says something along the lines of, We are 100 men and women who have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. (Not an exact quote but it definitely stresses the idea of being recovered.)

And some people in AA do say recovered. Outside of AA recovered is used even more.

I think I like recovering just because it is a reminder I will never be cured and I can never test those waters again. My experience with relapse was devastating and I don't want that to ever happen again. I don't want to be complacent.

Also, recovery to me is about more than just not drinking; it is about personal growth and making the most out of life. It is about moving away from being that person that I was. I have to keep pushing myself and so I don't like to think of anything as being complete, as the term recovered could connote.

But it is not something I would go to war over. If someone wants to call me recovered or reformed, I would accept it in good humor.

Whatev.




Yasemin has just suggested we meet in person!
 
Mudcat
I think I like recovering just because it is a reminder I will never be cured
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That's very much how we feel about blow. We actually believe that we are an addict for life, no matter how long it's been since the last use.

Mudcat
Yasemin has just suggested we meet in person!
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Good shit Mudday! Tap that ass! :sov:
 
Matty
That's very much how we feel about blow. We actually believe that we are an addict for life, no matter how long it's been since the last use.
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I have lived it. I started drinking/using again after ~7 years clean and sober. I was not cured by any stretch of the imagination. It was not long at all before I was right back at my lowest point where I left off - then things got worse.

And I have talked to people who have relapsed after 20 and 30 years. Same story.
 
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We're lucky to have Muddy posting here.

As we most of us know, Andy Rooney died this week. Muddy's posting style always makes me think of Andy Rooney.

I never mentioned that even though I've thought about it many times.

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I just got rid of a perfectly good pair of shoes because they squeaked. Every time my right heal went down, there was a squeak. It was not a fart sound exactly but it was fart-ish.

I googled and apparently a lot of people have had this problem solved by putting hand lotion and/or powder in the shoe. That didn't work with mine. They continued to squeak with every step. So the shoes have been relegated to the closet, to back-up/emergency status.

Fucking shoes.


Daft
Boys this could be Muddy's month.

Boys

Muddy you've got these big claws and you're just trying to figure out how you're going to slay this little bunny.

Boys
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Yeah, I don't know what will happen. I hope I am attracted to her. One thing my eHarmony experience has taught me loud and clear is that I am not very attracted to most women my age. She is 5 years younger but who knows? Her pics I have seen show mainly her face so when we get to whole package, I could be in for a surprise, good or bad.

I am not a completely superficial dick but I do want someone I have some level of attraction to. I'm not expecting an underwear model but just something.

Heading out in about an hour.
 
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