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Love.

Some say, if you really love me you would change while still others say, if you truly loved me you would accept me as I am.

So which is it, if one changes and the other stays the same who loves who more?

Can you really change who you are at your very core just because you say, think or truly love someone?

Can you accept someone whose very actions are something you would normally stay far away from simply because you have fallen in-love?

Should you have to change who you are and what you do simply because someone loves you?

Should you be forced to accept someone who goes against everything you believe in simply because they love you?

Love may be a beautiful thing but if it forces us to be someone were not how can that be good?

Love may be a blessing but if it requires us to be us to change who we are how can we go along with it.

Love neither comes easy nor does it come without a premium but no investment can match its potential return, or can it?

Love can make you happy, sick, miserable, depressed, elated, suicidal, it can give you hope to carry on or be the very thing that makes you end it all.

Love can motivate, create and evolve but it can also destroy, devastate and ultimately dissolve.

Is there ever been a path more twisted than Loves Highway?
 
Compromising in the name of "love" & companionship.

I dunno. If you really "love" each other you tend to make it work. And these bitter arguments don't explode out of nowhere all the time. If they do, maybe there's a better fit out there.

Nothing to do with love IMO.

I've been "in love" with girls I woulda never lived with. And for 3 years, I tried living with a girl I wasn't in love with.

These days, this subject makes my head hurt.

Timely thread Wakkyballs.
 
Wal, if you are referring to "love" as it applies to a relationship with a female then both the options you stated are applicable.

Women reserve the right to change their minds as they see fit.

One day “if you really love me you would change” is accurate until they decide that they prefer “if you truly loved me you would accept me as I am”.

Hope this helps, pal.
 
Pretty big topic. Just to bite off one small piece:



"If you loved me, you would change," is an uneasy thing. I don't know that I could love someone who would say that to me today. You start getting into co-dependence and control issues more than love.

I guess it would depend what kind of change they were looking for. There is change and there is change.

The only reason I stop short of saying that anyone who would say that is an idiot, is because it is something that happens very often - for obvious and understandable reasons - with people in relationships with addicts.
 
betplom
Mudcat, do you know "love"?
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Man that is a hell of a question.



Best brief answer I can give: I have been in what I consider true love twice in my life. Both times were with married women whom I could not have.

I have been in relationships where I loved the person I was with in a way but, if I am honest, it was not the depth of feeling as those other 2 occasions.

So I guess I have never been in a true fully loving relationship. There is a fair chance I will die with that situation.



I want to say that is tragic but I suspect it is not that uncommon.
 
no such thing as love in the male/female agenda... just lust, neediness, companionship, and co-dependence. you just trick yourself into believeing your in love with a vagina
only true love there is comes from your own children.
 
senco78
no such thing as love in the male/female agenda... just lust, neediness, companionship, and co-dependence. your body tricks you into believing you're in love so you produce children with someone.
only true love there is comes from your own children.
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I fixed your post for you.

It was a great post but it needed some minor changes to hit the nail on the head.


:cheers:
 
With regards to my own experience(s), I have never asked a person to change. The only thing I have ever asked is for mutual respect. When decisions are made with zero regard to the other half of the relationship, crucial trust is damaged.

You can speak to many different people about what is important in a relationship and you will get varying answers. To me, trust is #1. When trust is compromised, it is up to the wronged to determine whether or not they can forgive. It is also up to the person who has wronged to determine whether or not the relationship is valuable enough to disregard their own selfish needs when their actions have hurt the person they are supposed to love and respect. If the answer is no, the relationship almost always comes to an end.
 
if love is only to be explained with one word, that word is 'unconditional'. yes there is trust, respect, physical and spiritual attraction, compromise, tolerance, etc, etc, etc.

but if you expect all of those things to be perfectly sustainable and unwavering throughout the relationship between two perfectly imperfect human beings, you're only kidding yourself. love is still there when the crap hits the fan, period.
 
senco78
no such thing as love in the male/female agenda... just lust, neediness, companionship, and co-dependence. you just trick yourself into believeing your in love with a vagina
only true love there is comes from your own children.
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I disagree with. I think you are probably taking something personal and projecting it as a blanket statement.

For many people, there is love.
 
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